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Ok guys,
I am looking for a 9'6" ish rod for distance fishing from the shore, It needs to be able to handle 28g flat out without overloading.
Ideally it would have Fuji Titanium guides, and a short butt section (long butts seem to get in the way when fishing topwater lures).
I would prefer a fast to extra fast action rather than a stiff rod.
Now before everyone shouts "ultimate One", I am looking for other options.
I know we have several members with far great knowledge of top end kit than I do, so PLEASE help.
Oh and the budget is around £400.
Any ideas??

Tunny
 

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I know MyFish, I know,

But I would like to know a few options before I decide,
So MyFish have you fished with the Ultimate One?? I am looking to gain every inch possible from the shore line (I have a good reason honest-not just wanting to blast lures out), I fish mainly 15-28g lures.
 

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Griff,
If I thought the Boner could out cast my Bushwhacker I would snap one up. My Savage rods have been amazing value for money.
But looking for something to really put the lures out there, needs to be fast rather than stiff.
 

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Zeebaars,
Is the Lucky Craft still available??
A quick web search hasn't turned any up for sale?

Thanks for the tips,
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Tunny said:
Ok guys,
I am looking for a 9'6" ish rod for distance fishing from the shore, It needs to be able to handle 28g flat out without overloading.
Ideally it would have Fuji Titanium guides, and a short butt section (long butts seem to get in the way when fishing topwater lures).
I would prefer a fast to extra fast action rather than a stiff rod.
Now before everyone shouts "ultimate One", I am looking for other options.
I know we have several members with far great knowledge of top end kit than I do, so PLEASE help.
Oh and the budget is around £400.
Any ideas??

Tunny
I can only vouch for the well known rodbar 270 at punching out the plug....way further than I've ever needed too, then I guess there is the dragon. If your interested in a different colour, why? Some of the tenryu's are very savage and cast miles with the right technique, not meaning to sound condesending, but are you getting the best out of what you've got? Maybe a casting lesson with Keith could help?

Why do you need to cast so far mate?
 

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Maybe a casting lesson with Keith could help?
yes, and without me being condescending :-

It is one area many forget. Distance and accuracy casting in lure fishing is similar to
field casting sinkers.

There are those who can, and those who can't.

The latter usually opting to say you don't need too.

Well, that's fair enough but, imho, its best to have the skills there for you do.

Free lessons are open to everyone if they ask, even via video and email scrutiny.
 

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MyFish, and Vidar
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Sucks have the money sitting there awaiting a choice.
I know what you mean Vidar, seen it many times with fly rod, fast/extra fast is great IF you have spot on technique otherwise you can be better off with something a touch easier actionwise. Still very tempted by a Branzino Power Custom 9'6" up to 35g MML action. It is only money after all :lol:
Will give it YET more thought. Must admit having some one like MrFish stocking the red rods, does give that little extra peace of mind.

Softie,
I have tried the Bar270 and it a cracking rod, powerful and well built. But I perfer something a little faster actioned like the Super Distance. I am looking for a rod to add a few yards to my casts , basically to clear the dirty inshore water on my favourate area to fish. If you can reach the clean water, it can be almost a bass a cast. But in the dirty water it can be really hard to get takes. I can just hit the clean water with the Bushy, but every foot extra would help.
 

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i find the same is true, got all the gear (loomis rods, lamson reels, dressed head to toe in simms etc) ask them to hit a fence post at 20yds and it all falls apart!! we usually get them at the lodge a couple of hours before the actual fishing and go through tackle and technique.
 

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MyFish,
Totally agree, we spend a small fortune on gear and plugs. But often forget to learn how to get the most out of it. Many forget it is how fast the lure is travelling when you cast, NOT how much you swing the rod,that generates the distance. Also different rods require adjustments to the timing of the cast/loading to get the best from them.
Might well take you up on the casting lessons before next season, as I said every extra foot would be useful.
I have just received some of the PowerShot braid from MrFish, hoping this will add a little to the distance as well (lighter, smoother smaller diameter than my current braid)
I still feel that something with an fast/extra fast progressive action is best for distance. I wish Tenryu made a 9'6" version of the Super Distance. I think it would be almost unbeatable for distance.
 

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Mr Zzippy,
Do you remember the Sage SP+ rods?? Mentally fast, and if you could handle them. They are still the ultimate bonefish rods (#8/9'). But so many guys paid £600, but wouldn't pay £100 for a few lessons to cast it properly.
 

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Tunny said:
Mr Zzippy,
Do you remember the Sage SP+ rods?? Mentally fast, and if you could handle them. They are still the ultimate bonefish rods (#8/9'). But so many guys paid £600, but wouldn't pay £100 for a few lessons to cast it properly.
Absolutely, totally 110% spot on :!: :!: :!:
 

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Tunny:

To instantly add distance to your cast...

slow down and

use your wrong or lower hand to do the actual casting.

10% minimum improvement even if you only get half right m8.

Also, experiment where you have the lure before you cast.
All rods and weight combo's have an optimum rod tip to lure distance
before you start. It's called your drop length.

And, remember, you do NOT have to cast over your shoulder
to be able to cast in a straight line. In fact, a straight line isn't always
the most powerful. 10 degree's out right can often be more powerful
and productive as long as it the left, or lower hand that directs it there.

Now go practice. remember....

lower hand..

PULL, don't push.
 

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Myfish,
Already use the lower hand, result half the effort for the same distance as not using it. Also it is the lever effect that increase the tip speed of the rod during the cast and hence the speed of the lure as you cast. Interesting what you said about drop lengths, I thought that would be a function of the rod length. Will experiment asap

Blockhead,
You would know anyone that has used it would you?? I am kind of worried as the lure weights I am mosyt interested in are close to it's upper rating. And as you know NOT all plug rods will happily cast their stated upper limit at full power. Does look good though, looked at it several times and wondered. So hard to find good reviews for some of the Japanese rods.

Mr Zzippy,
I was a die hard IMX/GLX fan until Sage brought out the SP+, and T&T brought out the Horizon saltwater series. Both have been copied but never equalled IMHO
 
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