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Diy Assist Hooks

Discussion in 'DIY & Home Made Lures' started by {name}, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. Striper

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    The 30lb braid should be fine, it works when attaching a lure to the reel normally... Just how big a fish do you expect to catch with them?

    Looking good btw.
     
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  2. Throbbing Member

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    Lee are you fishing them with the assist hook & the treble hook on the same lure??
     
  3. Snapper

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    Yeah, I'm going to try a few variations. I'm glad I did have that setup today otherwise I would have blanked!

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    Its not the breaking strain that bothers me, sometimes split rings can be finished badly and cut through the braid.
     
  4. Striper

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    I tie the line/braid/dacron to a solid ring and then attach to the lure split ring to solid ring. No rough edges.
     
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  5. Salmon

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    I sneezed and lost all of the (bloody expensive) solid rings in my sofa and carpet.
     
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  6. Snapper

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    Did the following for folk on the other forum;

    I was making up a few assists tonight so as requested I have taken some photo's and shall try and provide a quick guide to two methods.
    There are lots of other methods and when I can afford some fly tying kit I shall post some more providing someone does not beat me to it.

    You'll need some kit

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    Rigging material: Braid, Dacron, Jigging braid etc
    Solid rings and split rings
    Hooks (I tend to use Sakuma Chinu hooks, they go down to size 10 too)
    Shrink tube
    Super Glue
    Scissors or craft knife
    Lighter

    Method 1

    This is one of the methods I use for lrf sized hooks as it is nice and simple. I am using heavier stuff here but you'll get the idea.

    Take your length braid or dacron and fold it in half;

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    Then tie simple over hand knot;

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    Slide your hook into the knot with the eye toward the top of the loop;

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    Tighten down;

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    Pass the loop through the back of the hooks eye;

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    Trim off your tag ends, dab some super glue on the knot, then slide a piece of shrink tube over the knot and gently heat with a flame;

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    Attach a solid ring with a larks foot knot;

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  7. Snapper

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    Method 2

    You won't be able to use this method with lrf assists, but for HRF its fine. Its strange to call this a HRF method, as I was flinging jigs way before I even heard the term.

    Take a length of hollow core jigging braid and insert a splicing needle half way up;

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    Stupidly I have missed a photo out here, I shall explain as best as I can.

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    Make a small loop in the braid from above the hook and insert the bottom of the loop into the hook, only the side that doesn't have the needle in.
    Then pull the needle and other half of the braid back through the hollow core. You should end up with this;

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    At this point you can add a solid ring, though you can do it later;

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    At the other end, slide the hook on and make a loop as shown;

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    Pass the tag end, through the loop as shown;

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    Tighten down when you have sussed where on your jig you'd like the hook to hang. I usually go for held to three quarters of the way down my jigs.

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    You have created a half hitch, do two more of these;

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    Put a dab of super glue on the knot.
    At this pint you can add some flash (tinsel) if you wish, just super glue it on.
    Then add a piece of shrink tube;

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    Gently heat with a flame;

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    Attach your solid ring to a split ring and then to the jig;

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    Your done!

    I like to make up assist of varying lengths and I store them in a hook wallet. My jigs are then separate in a jig roll or case. This way If i want to change hook size, length or whatever, I can do it on the fly.

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    Go fishing and have fun :)

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  8. Snapper

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    Now I have a question;
    I wish to use spade end hooks and I'd also like to dress some assists on the hollow core, negating the need for knots but which is the best thread to use for this?
    Would I just use some pretty standard fly thread or something tougher?

    Anyone help?
     
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  9. Chub

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    Hi Lee, I'd use the fly tying thread simply because it's picked to be rotproof in water (fresh or salt)
    It's not expensive and there's Loads of colours and thicknesses etc.

    But if you were going to use nail varnish or UV cure epoxy to seal it, then it ought to be possible to use any strong thread...

    Keeping tension on the thread while whipping it round the hook and not continually snapping it is one of a beginner fly tier's nuisances LOL! so a good strong thread is generally helpful :-D
     
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  10. Snapper

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    Cheers bud.
    From what I have read, the thread often snaps because the bobbin holders are crap and therefore the edge cuts the stuff rather than snaps it?

    Are there any brands or out that you'd recommend or avoid Nick?
     
  11. Chub

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    Hi Lee, I was steered towards ceramic tube bobbins to avoid the chance of threads getting cut by the tube, and there are some reasonably priced ones out there.
    As ever more money can get you a better product :D
    a £4 - £8 ceramic bobbin will serve you as well as a £14 - £18 ceramic bobbin, for occasional/hobby fly tying.
    but now that I've started tying (not often enough to get to grips with maintaining a smooth steady pull on the thread yet!) I'd go for the Ritebobbin or similar ceramic tube bobbin with a built in drag system.

    Avoiding the irritation generated by snapping the threads is worth the extra money IMHO.....

    If you know any fly tyers local to you that could let you have a go at tying, you would quickly see what you 'need' and what is nice to use.
     
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  12. Guest

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    You could try kevlar whipping thread?
     
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  13. Snapper

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    Actually I shall be doing just that for my Mediterranean assists and flies, I figure they'll stand up better to the toothy species.

    Cheers guys
     
  14. Chub

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    If you're going to be using high breaking strain thread/lines then a cheap'n cheerful ceramic tube bobbin will work just fine :D
     
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  15. Striper

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    It's only taken me about two years to get round to finally making some but I'm pleased with how they've turned out...

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    Materials used.
    6/0 thread.
    50lb Power Pro.
    #4 Owner Pin Hook.
    Micro Crystal Flash.
    3mm rig ring.
    Superglue.

    A lot easier than I thought it would be and even better I only paid £20 for a budget fly tying vice and tools. :-D
     
  16. Chub

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    Nice one Scott!
     
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  17. Sandeel

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    Just wanted to thank you all for this info, I spent a few hours today trying to decide what is needed size wise and where to get the stuff, now I know !!!
     
  18. Sprat

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    just noticed this thread if you are using assist hooks they should hang between 1/3 and halfway down the lure from the eye end of the lure.hooks should always be wider than the lure body on 200grm jigs I use 8/0 or 10/0 wide gape hooks adjust accordingly.if using assist hooks don't put and hooks on the end of the lure you will find the assist hook will foul hook fish which is what you don't want if you practice c/release.
     

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