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Which brand does everybody use or reconmend and lbs

i must admit to never having used flurocarbon line but from what ive read it work`s better than mono ?, I
normally go straight threw with my braid and have done ok in the past but if i can catch over my pb in 2010 ill be a very happy man,
Does it tie knots the same as mono.

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seagur 20lb or 15lb on clearish ground.no more than 2ft,cheers daz.i use albright to connect to braid but there are better knots to be had.
 

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shArk said:
Which brand does everybody use or reconmend and lbs

i must admit to never having used flurocarbon line but from what ive read it work`s better than mono ?, I
normally go straight threw with my braid and have done ok in the past but if i can catch over my pb in 2010 ill be a very happy man,
Does it tie knots the same as mono.

Thanks shArk
I have used Seaguar for a few years now in the 19.5 and 30lbs size.
Next year I am going to swap to something much much 'softer' as I want to use longer leaders and I am convinced thet the ultra hard Seaguar does not like being "hindged" through the tip ring etc.
Last year I had several breaks (luckily only with tobys) about 1/8" below the albright. :eek: :shock:
I recon that its the flouro not liking the hinging effect through the tip ring as its such a hard line.
Its brilliant stuff me thinks for short leaders upto about 3 foot long.
Others may have totally different experiences,I may also drop down to 15lbs as well. :)
 

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Another for the seaguar here, good stuff.

Careful with tying your knots......fluro needs a more attention when tying, make sure its well moistened etc
 

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I used to use Triple Fish in 20lb until I had two spools that frayed (delaminated) very, very easily.

Currently using Ultima, (they have a new flruo that I have not tried yet), Varivas Genoa, and Sufix -- all very good.

I tend to match braking strain to the braid I am using i.e. .23Power Pro braid to 20lb fluro, .19PP to 15lb fluro and .13PP to 10lb fluro

(use a lot of Ultima fluros in my Mullet fishing, both float and ledger, 6lb to 10lb, they are supprisingly strong using Uni knots).
 

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Thanks again

I was reading early this morning to apply a slight bit of cooking oil on knot to make the fluro snich up tighter and stronger ???

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ON the knot side of things ive read that many people put a drop of super glue on the knot,dont know if it is a good idea or not?
 

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Fishfordinner,
I use a spot of superglue on the albright (tied with a lock in the tag end to help smooth the knot), I have done this since the days when I was doing alot of saltwater flyfishing. Never caused any harm. I use 14lb fireline to 20lb Hard compound flourocarbon, and I have bent the trebles out a few times getting lures back this year, so I think the knot strength is fine.
 

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Tunny, you'll have to show me that one next time I see you as my fluoro always always breaks just below the Albright when pulling on a snagged lure. I have been using 20lb Whiplash Crystal (going onto PP .23 next season) and 20lb Berkley Vanish fluoro this year.
 

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fishfordinner said:
ON the knot side of things ive read that many people put a drop of super glue on the knot,dont know if it is a good idea or not?
This works better when joining mono to mono as it stops the lines strangling each other,not as good with some coated braids etc.
 

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I bought some superglue to use on knots. Could it possibly make the knot brittle, and susceptible to damage though, what with the immobilty of the two lines?

Anyhow, I use the Seaguar stuff, in about 19lb I think.
 

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Griff said:
Tunny, you'll have to show me that one next time I see you as my fluoro always always breaks just below the Albright when pulling on a snagged lure. I have been using 20lb Whiplash Crystal (going onto PP .23 next season) and 20lb Berkley Vanish fluoro this year.
You might be better trying a different flouro.

I used to use vanish a lot for mullet (OK in lower weights) but found the line strength pants where the knot was pulled tight across it (you know where it goes a bit kinky sometimes) thought the knot itself always seemed fine. I use Grand Max for mullet and bream now but apparently it's a secret (just pretend I didn't say that...).

Make sure you wet the line before you put any pressure on it as well, flouro is a bit iffy about being damaged like that sometimes.

I use something from veals which came in a choice of 2 colours, pink and grey, in 25lb. It's rather thick and maybe the reason I haven't done so well this year. Will have to look for better as discussed by others...
 

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Griff,
FishingGuersey, is spot on.
Vanish is a soft compound fluro, great for mainline on a reel. But just don't handle being knotted as well as hard compounds.
One tip in tying the Albright, try and keep it as neat as possible, then it will require less pulling to snug the knot tight. Less pulling=less possible damage to the line.
I have successfully used Triple Fish Fluro this year, it is good. But I still prefer SeaGuar.
Keen to try the new one from Ultimate as well.
 

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Interesting topic!

Having been a straight thru braid angler all last year, I had a rethink recently about going back to using fluoro leaders.

I tried 20lb braid + 3ft 20lb leader for a while early in 2009 but got annoyed losing loads of expensive lures when the leader knot would snap without much effort. I switched to 20lb braid all-thru in April and with one exception, bent out every snagged hook so got the lures back each time AND caught fish too so all seemed to be ok. I didn’t think much more about it but having spoken to a few people recently, I have a nagging thought that I could be missing out on extra fish put off by the braid to the lure. So I decided to learn better knots and test the breaking strain of my rigs with my digi scales.

I use brown 20lb Cortland Master braid and it’s been great with only 1 wind knot (that resulted in a lost lure) in 18months… May change to green powerpro when it wears out but that’s an aside. I tried a couple of 20lb lines for my leader test last night, Ultima Memorex for traces and Vanish fluro (which I had used previously). Decided against using a swivel to join the braid to leader as although it’s simpler than line-line knots I don’t fish much in good light (job, family, DIY etc put paid to that!) so I don’t want to be reeling a metal swivel up against the rod tip eyes in the dark.

I used carefully tied Albright knots (tried normal and Albertos) to join mainline braid to 2ft of mono and tried both Blood and Uni knots to attach a 25lb Duo-Lock snaplink.
I held the reel spool tight and pulled against my Berkely digi scales and kept an eye on the screen.

The results were quite surprising to me as whilst the Albrights held (nice - my leader knots are getting better!) the 20lb mono would consistently break at the snaplink with only a 10-12lb steady pull (not yanking it).

I know it depends on your knot tying abilities but I was disappointed to see the mono always breaking at 50-60% of the stated BS. In comparison, I tried the same test with straight braid Uni knotted to the clip and it snapped at about 20.5lb so its not the clip damaging the line.

The upshot is I’ll be using leaders again as I seem to have cracked tying Albrights but will be upping the BS to at least 25-30lb and see what happens.

I guess its simple stuff but if my catch rate improves using a leader it was an hour well spent - given the price of lures and the lack of fish you have to be confident in your gear and its nice to have some test data!
 

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I'm sure someone more informed than I can answer the following... Is Fluoro generally less or more stretchy than mono?

With all the talk recently on WSF about the advantages/disadvantages of braid over mono and vice versa, if the stretch was less on fluoro could there be an argument for having fluoro all the way through?

I don't know alot about lines so that could be a totally stupid question by the way,
 
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