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Discussion in 'Metal Lures' started by {name}, May 1, 2011.

  1. Salmon

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    Nope not talking about Maiden at Knebworth.

    I am talking about slugs,profiles,blades,wedges, in fact any all metal lures. Now I wonder just how many of the lure boxes of this site members have one or more of the above hidden away in them. And if not WHY NOT.
    Yeap I am a fan, and while they won't compete with shiny japanese porn (sorry I mean plugs) all the time. There are times when they are worth there weight in gold.
    Let me give you a couple of examples:
    You are on a mark, and you have flogged it senseless for hours, the day is ticking away. And suddenly the bass explode the baitfish-Just outside of distance that you can cast your longest casting plug. Bugger oh well, Your going home with nothing but the sand in your boots right??
    Nope, without weight transfers system, or magnets, or unpronuable japanese names, Metals will give you the distance, and trust me dropping a 20g metal into a shoal of feeding bass-is a pretty good bet for a hook up. Put it this way I can put a 20g metal 20 meters further than any hard plastic lure in my box. Just think about that 20 meters extra!!! Now instead of just sand in boots, and damp waders-You are taking home pics of bass on the beach for a catch report!!!
    Another time you will probably know is arriving at the mark to find the wind is now howling along the shore. Casting a hardbait is still possible, and yes we have a chance to catch in close. But between the reduced casting distance, and the wind catching the line and dragging the lure across the top. Basically right away you know it is a low odds session. But what about a metal?? punching it acoss the wind is not problem, so we have the ability to cover alot more water (no matter what anyone tells you-distance counts, cover more water-more chance of bass), not just that the smaller heavier metal lure is still controlable, and while it might not be quite as effective as a normal hard bait. Your covering 3-5 times the water properly. Want to bet which lure will beach the most bass???

    Ok, Some hopefully those members that haven't looked at metals, are now thinking about them. Lets be clear this isn't anything new. Just think about the number of bass that have been caught on Dexters, and Tobies over the years- A (very rude word) LOT!! So while plugs have gotten better, have we forgotten that it isn't always about the latest plug or technology??
    So what can we get our hands on metal wise??? and what the (another rude word) do they do??
    A couple of local old skoolers first
    Abu Tobies, for me the 20g and 28g are the pick of the bunch, cast OK (on par with your longest casting plugs), and swim fairly high in the water on a normal retrieve. Silver for me, but never rule out other colours as some things one colour will produce more than others.
    Dexter Wedge, A slice, chromed, with a holo sticker (that will fall off on it's first dunking-don't worry they work fine without it), huge range of weights/colours available. These run deeper than a Toby, but without alot of action.Still work though!!
    Right on to the newer old skool stuff.
    Halco Twisty's (from 5g to huge) I grew up with these, saving my pocket money for them. Plugs I had learnt were great, but anything with teeth ruined them. Metals catch just as many fish-and teeth don't wreck them, And in Northern Australia EVERYTHING has teeth. I dread to think how many species I have caught on Halco Twisty's over the years- But it is way more than any other single lure. 5g,10g,15g,20g go everywhere I go. They are one of the best casting metals ever, and the bent ends on the slice increase the action, being heavy and having action means that you can control the depth they run at much easier than other metals.
    Profles (TackleHouse Nebaru, Maria Parades,YoZuri do some good ones too), basically fish shaped lumps of metal, some shiney, some painted. But on the whole they don't have any action, but for days when the fish are on tiny baitfish and aren't interested in anything larger, and you still need the weight to get to the fish. They can save your bacon, time and again. Also Profiles can be deadly when fished vertically, so from a boat or harbour wall.
    And we reach the current new Metal, Japanese shore casting jigs. Now be very careful ordering jigs from Japan as most that you see advertised are meant for bayjigging-not casting. Shore casting jigs are flat on one side and either curved or keeled on the other. They have a totally different action on the retrieve, with the head (connection to the line) remaining still and the tail of the jig swinging back and forth. They work well, cast well, can be run at different depths. A good example are the DanGan from Shout.

    One quick point, while generally heavier lures cast further, it is the weight that best suits your rod that you want. Best place to look is two thirds of way from to the bottom of your rods rating to the top. So if you have a rod rated 7-35g (like mine) then the best weight for distance is 20-22g, So don't go buying metals that are too heavy for your rods!!
    Not glamourous, no new secret japanese technology, no mystic forces, Metals aren't sexy lures, no one will be drooling over them in the Show and Tell thread, but for me the fact they catch fish when nothing else will means they have a place in my lure box.
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    From left to right, Jaco Vib, TackleHouse Nebaru, Toby style blade, Halco Twisty 5g, Halco Twisty 20g
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    After turning their noses up at every hardbait I had, Halco Twisty 15g got the tuna to play.
     
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  2. Perch

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    Totaly agree,

    No hi-tech, no blablabla.
    But metals can be owesome on some days.
    Still love that ABU Toby etc. etc.

    Fantastic "report" Dave !!!!

    Cheers Harold
     
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  3. Pollock

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    Green kilty wouldin leave home without one!
     
  4. Pollock

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    Good post Dave !

    Always carry a few classic Metals with me, sometimes when weather conditions are against you they are the only thing that can reach the fish, plus as I have mentioned in an other post "Let them Flutter" :wink:

    Gary
     
  5. Salmon

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    Quite right Gary,
    Always worth watching for takes on the drop, often almost as soon as they hit the water. So many ways to fish them straight retrieve, sink and draw (with a nice flutter on the sink) fast, slow, The joys of non-specific lures is you (the angler) can do so much with them. Not knocking modern lures, which are awsome. But Metals still catch alot of fish, and are great value for money.
     
  6. Striper

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    You didn't mention the Bridun Launce (sadly no longer made) or the Nordic Herring, Dave. Both fine casting spoons (in 15g) and 2 of the best shore pollack catchers ever made. Perfect for deep shore marks. If anyone's got any spare launces (silver/red preferably), I'll pay top dollar.
     
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    One of the most popular metals in \Ireland is the clonakilty killer. Some people never use anything else and they don't lack for bass!
     
  8. Salmon

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    Adrain/Brendan,
    Guys there are so many good metals out there, it would have been next to impossible to list them all.
    Sounds like both of you are well aware of just how good metals can be.
     
  9. Minnow

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    Never leave without a box of spoons. Tobies are good but the Silver Kilty is awesome( I also like the gold version), Bass love these and these do on their day outfish modern plugs. Cast like rockets too. We have cast these on a casting court to around 100m using our normal fishing set up.

    If I'm at a new mark its the Kilty that goes on first.

    We had bait exploding in front of us last year at range, no way were plugs going to get near the action, it was a mad scramble to get the Kiltys clipped on.

    Its a valid point to never overlook any lure old or new, they all have thier day.
     
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  10. CoFounder & Retired Admin

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    Good topic, it would be good to compose a list of members preferred metals eh.
     
  11. Blenny

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    Excellent post. Got my plugs. Got my softies.
    Also have dexter large and small and a couple of tobies.
    We have some deep marks locally and it is simply vey satisfying to whack out a wedge and let it drop. The local tackle shops are by no means big on the lures or techniques as we know them but their knowledge and experience is still relevant, and they are right, these things catch fish.
    Banging a wedge on occasionally also sorts that braid out, especially after a session on the softies.
     
  12. Blenny

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    I maybe old skool, but I ain't no old skool fool!
     
  13. Pollock

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    1.Large Abu Koster 60,40 & 28 grm (when the herring are in)
    2.Dexter Cresta 45 & 28 grm (hybrid of the famous wedge)
    3.Dexter Wedge (all sizes)
    4.Abu Toby Zebra (Black & Gold) 18 grm
     
  14. Pollock

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    Absolutely agree Dave......definately a place for "metals"....distance.....catching ability.....and well suited to some types of mark.....
     
  15. Salmon

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    Halco Twisty 5-20g
    Spanyid Raiders 10 & 20g
    Abu Toby (silver) 20 & 28g
    And I can't wait to get my sticky little fingers on the Reins Palpuntin
     
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    german sprat fished right is very good.........:wink:
     
  17. Pollock

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    NO.1,kilty green
    NO.2.kilty green
    NO.3.kilty green
    ;-);-);-);-)
     
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    Silver Kiltys
    Original swedish ABU Tobys, Kosters and Krills
    Halco Twistys
    Flashamers
    etc etc

    Youd be completly mad and a fool to leave home without them..... And yes they will completly outfish expensive plastics on their day. Serious for covering ground and distance too when you need to, as Austin said we cast kiltys on standard setups over 100m on the casting court.

    Marty
     
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    locals at Teignmouth were punching out a Toby across a rough swell and windy conditions last Saturday, I followed their lead, but not having a Toby on me tried a Dexter, no luck but we all know they work and just the fact that you can blast it a fair way against the wind give you a little confidence that you have some water covered...good thread Dave, thanks.
     
  20. Pike

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    My old Mum, who at 76 still enjoys wetting a line, wont let me take her fishing unless I pack a Dexter Wedge and a Toby.

    Me, I always pack a couple of Mepps of the largest size. Never caught a bass on them but they wont let you down if there are Pollack or Coley about.
     

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