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Hello,

I'm going to be in the Helford (St Anthony) area in mid march for a long weekend with my wife. I have been sort of thinking of it as kicking off my 2010 plugging season.

Am i in with a chance? I've google earthed the rea and the coastline looks typically rocky and reasonably accessable.

We're staying right close the the sea and though i'd get a couple of hrs in each morning and evening if i can.

I know the helford river is a nursery area similar i guess to christchurch harbour local to me so understand the issues there.

I guess as above - am I barking up the right tree? We're staying there on a freebie so didn't have any choice in the location but at least its right on the coast.

Rich
 

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Hi Rich,
I'd say your in with a chance, mostly small bass around that area through the winter and spring.
But worth a go and a nice area to start the season.

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I’ve fished the Helford a fair bit on the fly and caught plenty of smallish Bass, Mackerel and Mullet, sparsely dressed bait fish pattern worked well for the Bass, It is a nursery area and these rules apply, I know of anglers who have been prosecuted for taking Bass in the Helford and their gear confiscated, and I wish more prosecutions were made elsewhere, crimp your barbs and slip em back, you’ll enjoy fishing there it’s a beautiful place.

A.T.B Chris
Bass Nursery Areas
Fishing for bass from any vessel, as well as, fishing for any species of sea-fish using sand-eels (ammodytidae) as bait, is prohibited in 37 separate areas for all or part of the year. These areas, their extent and the seasonal duration of the prohibition are set out below. The legislation is Statutory Instrument 1999 No 75 The Bass (Specified Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) (Variation) Order 1999).
The nursery areas comprise river estuaries, harbours and power station outfalls where juvenile bass usually predominate and are more easily caught, particularly during the summer months. In certain nursery areas, fishing may also be subject to other restrictions implemented by the local sea fisheries committee or the Environment Agency [National Rivers Authority]. Such restrictions may include prohibitions on the setting of fixed nets or restrictions on the use of mobile gear.
The prohibition on bass fishing in nursery areas does not apply to fishing from the shore. However it is expected that shore anglers and their associations will respect the need for this prohibition and return to the sea any bass caught within nursery areas.
Location of bass nursery areas
The Bass nursery area Description of area Period applying in 1990 and subsequent years
1.Blyth power station All tidal waters enclosed by a line in the south bearing 108.5º true from the Blyth Power Station chimneys in transit, to the east by a line bearing 173.5º true from a transit of the Alcan Power Station chimney and the western pylon of the northern pair of measured mile markers and to the north by a line bearing 111º true being a transit of the yellow "X" Northumberland Water Authority pipeline markers all year
2.Bradwell power station The area between the Baffle Wall and the Bradwell foreshore enclosed by lines drawn perpendicular (145º true) from the NE and SW corners of the Baffle Wall to the shore all year
3.Grain power station The area enclosed by a line drawn 120º true through Grain Martello Tower and Grain Hard buoy to Garrison point, and a line drawn 114º true from the foreshore at Grain power station to the western extremity of the Ro-Ro terminal, and the Isle of Grain and Sheerness foreshores all year
4.Kingsnorth power station The area enclosed by Bee Ness jetty and a line drawn 204º true to the tip of Oakham Ness jetty, thence 260º true to the SE tip of Kingsnorth jetty, and along the seaward arm of Kingsnorth jetty and then 298º true to the Kingsnorth power station foreshore all year
5.Dungeness power station All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 180º true from the eastern end of the Dungeness 'A' building to a point 600 m below MLW springs, thence 270º true for a distance of 1 km, thence 000º true to the shore marked by an isolated building "hangar B1" situated between the Dungeness 'B' complex and the power station all year
6.Chichester harbour All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 192º true from Eastoke point to Chichester Bar beacon, then 078º true to Cakeham tower between 30 april and 1 november
7.Langstone harbour All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 153º true from the Gunnery Range light at Eastney point to Langstone Fairway buoy (50º 46.25N 01º 01.27W), then 033º true to the foreshore east of Gunner point between 30 april and 1 november
8.Portsmouth harbour All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn from Gilkicker point to Southsea castle between 30 april and 1 november
9.Southampton water All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 090º true from the Cadland foreshore to the Warsash foreshore passing through the north-west extremity of the Esso tanker jetty but excluding those waters above the Redbridge causeway on the river Test between 30 april and 1 november
10.Fawley power station The area enclosed by a circle drawn with a radius of 556 metres around the outfall from Fawley power station all year
11.Poole harbour All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 011º true from Jerry's point, through Branksea castle to Salterns pier between 30 april and 1 november
12.The Fleet all tidal waters of the Fleet inside Ferry bridge all year
13.River Exe, Devon All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 068º true from Langstone point to Orcombe point between 30 april and 1 november
14.River Teign All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 000º true from the Ness to the southernmost leading light between 30 april and 1 november
15.River Dart, Devon All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 064º true from Combe point to Inner Froward point between 30 april and 1 january
16.Salcombe harbour All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 090º true from Splat point to Limebury point between 30 april and 1 january
17.River Avon, Devon All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 206º true from Warren point at Bigbury-on-sea to Burgh island, and a line drawn 090º true from the southern tip of Burgh island to the coast between 30 april and 1 january
18.River Yealm All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 205º true from Season point to Mouthstone point between 30 april and 1 january
19.Plymouth rivers All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn from the western end of Mountbatten pier 268º true to the landing beacon at Wilderness point in the river Tamar all year
20.River Fowey All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 270º true from Penleath point to the opposite shore between 30 april and 1 january
21.Fal estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 045º true from Weir point to Turnaware point between 30 april and 1 january
22.Percuil river All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 151º true from St Mawes castle to Carricknath point between 30 april and 1 january
23.Helford river All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 199º true from Rosemullion head to Dennis head between 30 april and 1 january
24.Camel estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 020º true from Stepper point to Pentire point between 30 april and 1 december
25.River Torridge All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 290º true from Zeta berth to the opposite shore between 30 april and 1 november
26.River Taw All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 190º true from the western end of Braunton pill to the site of the former power station at Yelland between 30 april and 1 november
27.Aberthaw power station All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn at a radius of 1 nautical mile from Breaksea point all year
28.Burry inlet All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 071º true from Whiteford lighthouse to Llanelli docks and a line drawn 180º true from Whiteford lighthouse to the shore between 30 april and 1 november
29.Taf, Tywi and Gwendraeth estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 119º true from Ginst point to Pen Towyn point between 30 april and 1 november
30.Milford Haven All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn from the shore along the eastern side of the Texaco Terminal approach jetty to the southernmost part of the T jetty thence eastwards along the southern edge of the jetty to the extremity at No. 3 berth (51º 41.87N, 04º 57.58W) and then 098º true through the Pennar beacon to the Llanreath foreshore (51º 41.55N, 04º 57.58W) and by a line drawn 162º true along the seaward side of the Pembroke to Neyland road bridge between 30 april and 1 november
31.Teifi estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn from the boathouse, Penrhyn to the Cliff hotel, Gwbert between 30 april and 1 november
32.River Dyfi All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 168º true from Trefeddian hotel (52º 32.8N, 04º 03.6W) to the flag pole at Ynys Las (52º 31.4N, 04º 03.8W) between 30 april and 1 november
33.River Mawddach All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 226º true from the flagpole at Barmouth (52º 43.1N, 04º 03.1W) to the perch at 52º 42.7N, 04º 03.7W thence 155º true to the corner of the sea wall at Fairbourne (52º 42.5N, 04º 03.6W) between 30 april and 1 november
34.Dwyryd/Glaslyn estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 152º true from the White House (52º 54.4N, 04º 09.1W) to Harlech point (52º 53.7N, 04º 08.5W) between 30 april and 1 november
35.Conwy estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn in a northerly direction from Penmaen-bach point 001º true to the most westerly point of Great Ormes head between 30 april and 1 november
36.Dee estuary All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 213º true from Hilbre point to Mostyn quay between 31 may and 1 october
37.Heysham power station All tidal waters enclosed by a line drawn 085º true from No. 7 buoy (54º 01.22N, 002º 56.28W) to the shore, a line drawn 020º true from No. 7 buoy towards the Dolphin (54º 02.40N, 02º 55.52W), and a line drawn 102º true through the leading lights to Heysham harbour all year
Enforcement
Responsibility for the enforcement of the measures outlined above rests with the fisheries departments and their sea fisheries inspectorate. The inspectorate is assisted by the officers of local sea fisheries committees who are empowered to enforce both national and community conservation measures.
 

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Hi Rich,

If you fish within Gillan Creek it's actually outside the nursery area and it's mid March you'll be down.

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i'll be there next week..... anyone catching any fish in cornwall yet?
 

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Hi, Ive done a fair bit of plugging in the helford, can be great sport if you get it right, not huge fish but plenty in the 1-2 lb bracket, and I've seen some lunkers swimming alongside the schoolies, never managed to hook one on a plug though. March may be hard work but I'm sure there'll be a few fish around. I have fished the rocky point at helford village near the ferry pontoon in early mornings on a rising tide and had some success. Give that a go, its only a 5 min drive from st Anthony. Had some beuties 6lb and 7lb on the other side of the river up at the very far end of the port navas creek in november on bait, Again though only in the early morning and over a worm bed. If you're interested in bait fishing there are some Thornback rays around in the mouth of the River at the moment.
Also on the shore at St Anthony you'll notice that at low water there is a channel between two spits almost no water there at low. As the tide floods into the creek this can be a great ambush spot for smallish bass as they move up the creek onto the worm beds. In the midst of summer when the tide coincides with early mornings you can see huge shoals racing to get up there in a foot of water. Again I'm not sure about march but the worms are still there so why not?
 

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i'll be there next week..... anyone catching any fish in cornwall yet?
There are odd fish about on the south coast, but not too many of them. Now's the time it'll start picking up across the county. I haven't been out for a few weeks but expect one or two to start showing here within about the next 2 or 3 weeks.
 

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i'm not expecting too much but i'll have a thrash about over the weekend. thanks for all the advice... winters not over yet....
 

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had a great weekend but no fish....

had a cast about a couple of evenings up gillan creek but nothing too serious. It still seems a bit cold to have too much luck.

great spot though and spent sone time scoping out a few future potential marks around the lizard.

i'll be back in the campervan come summer.... great part of the world.... (and the wife loved all the daffs too....)
 
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