[Simon L]

I have some small plugs, and have my eye on some others, that are in the 2g to 6g region. The Injection isnt really suitable in this weight range though. So, i need something in the 2 - 10g rated region. But - i want it to be able to stop a double figure Croc, as i want to use it in FW for Pike & Perch.

Any recommendations of a rod that'll do this ?

 

[Keith White]

Not yet, but working on it.
We are looking for the same finesse with HRF rods. Sensitive, fun with small fish, cast lighter gear and yet stop zoo creatures.

Work in progress.

 

[Henry Gilbey]

Are you guys aware that there are a bunch of new Injections out there now - I was shown a couple at Nantes, lighter and I think a bit shorter than the "standard" one - might these do the job ? Seemed like awesome bits of kit to me, but then I am not yet "educated" in this lighter stuff.....

 

[Alex Jordan]

Think there were two 6 feet injections - one casting one spinning and one 7 footer - all the same casting weight as far as I recall - same dilemma here ... do I need two light rods ?

 

[Simon L]

Cant see any details about the new Injections on 'Ultimate's' site . . . . . . .

 

[Simon L]

:spoo: http://fishing.tenryu-magna.com/bass/magnaimpact.html

:spoo: http://fishing.tenryu-magna.com/shore/swat_windfinesse.html

 

[Chad]

Was talking to a nice bloke at the Sportfish show in reading at the weekend who mentioned he'd been in contact with **** about some new rods (dark blue ones). He showed me a 8' 4 piece travel rod rated at around 5-25g, said they'd be available for around £99.

They looked like nice rods but I thought they were a bit on the floppy side for my liking.

He said he gets Owner 56's for you sometimes **** and showed me an email on his blackberry from you so I know he was genuine, care to elaborate any??? :muttley:

 

[Alex Jordan]

Spoke to **** - new Ultimate catalogue isn't ready yet - bit of a shame!

 

[Henry Gilbey]

Alex - I am pretty sure that smaller Injection was a lighter casting weight than the "standard" 7' one, but then again my brain was buzzing that hard at Nantes that I could be completely wrong as well !!

A friend was asking me yesterday if I had yet come across a "finese" bass rod that was as good as the Injection - not yet, still the benchmark in my book. Fight the urge Henry....

 

[Simon L]

A friend was asking me yesterday if I had yet come across a "finese" bass rod that was as good as the Injection - not yet, still the benchmark in my book. Fight the urge Henry....

It's become my go-to rod Henry. I am getting scarily little use out of my Supermix as a result. Just get one !!! :twisted: It'll go nicely with your 3000 Rarenium (that's the combo i'm using - stunning !!)

 

[Keith White]

Alex - I am pretty sure that smaller Injection was a lighter casting weight than the "standard" 7' one, but then again my brain was buzzing that hard at Nantes that I could be completely wrong as well !!

A friend was asking me yesterday if I had yet come across a "finese" bass rod that was as good as the Injection - not yet, still the benchmark in my book. Fight the urge Henry....

Trust me, its very good but for what we are doing now, it's lacking. We need a specialist rod.
Injection just doesn't cut it with the lighter stuff. And, its not practical as part of a rock quiver when climbing with multiple rods.

The French are behind on this one m8.

 

[Nick Phillips]

Alex - I am pretty sure that smaller Injection was a lighter casting weight than the "standard" 7' one, but then again my brain was buzzing that hard at Nantes that I could be completely wrong as well !!

A friend was asking me yesterday if I had yet come across a "finese" bass rod that was as good as the Injection - not yet, still the benchmark in my book. Fight the urge Henry....

Why not look at the Sage lure rods,at the 7 foot length they have a very very soft but ultra fast tip action.

 

[Ben Field]

Henry's right. The short Injections (at least 2 of them) are rated 2/7g and 3.5/10.5g. They are both less than 2m long though. There is at least another rod to add to that range as well.

 

[Simon L]

Henry's right. The short Injections (at least 2 of them) are rated 2/7g and 3.5/10.5g. They are both less than 2m long though. There is at least another rod to add to that range as well.

Any info on when they will be hitting the shelves ?

 

[Ben Field]

Any info on when they will be hitting the shelves ?

Already have in France mate. Maybe **** can get them? Probably. http://www.peche-net.com/canne-injection-sp65ml-tenryu-p-3042.html

Bit short for my liking :???:

 

[Keith White]

Before you all go rushing in...

They might not work.

Conversely, they might be great but I reckon too short for shore work.

You can be sure these rods were designed for boat use and not shore. Different design brief.

 

[Ben Field]

Before you all go rushing in...

They might not work.

Conversely, they might be great but I reckon too short for shore work.

You can be sure these rods were designed for boat use and not shore. Different design brief.

Totally agree. Definitely wouldn't recommend anybody actually buy one.

Just wanted to clarify Henry's point that they do exist.

 

[Rolfe Deppe]

Another option?

2-6gr is a tough call actually - I have a lot of experience in this weight range, most recently for sea trout. My go-to lures are around 3.5-5g, bang in the middle of your given range. I have extensively used 2 rods for this weight range - (G.Loomis S842-2 IMX & Graphiteleader Vigore 7'2"), both around 7', both rated for 4-8lb line and 5/16 & 1/4 oz respectively.
The Loomis is a mod-fast action, designed for trout fishing with an OK backbone (bends like a Supermix but further into the butt). I have caught a load of sizeable fish on it, including pike to 13lb, catfish to 18lb, chub to 5lb, carp to 8lb, perch, trout etc (not all on lures obviously). It fishes very well with braid PE 0.8 and (i built it myself) casts even better since I put on TATSG single foot guides. Whilst brilliant for spinners & plugs it is not much use for SPs, even with braid the slow tip leaves you slightly disconnected.

The Graphiteleader http://www.olympic-co-ltd.jp/en/g_rod/vigore_spin/gvis_722l.html has not seen as much action, (some jacks, few surf-zone sea trout, a 3lb bass, a plug-eating mullet of 5lbs etc) but is an absolute peach. Good with plugs, vibration baits & small SPs. Action is fast with good backbone - it's designed for finessing largemouth bass with jigs etc so it's no noodle. It is unbelievably light and well-balanced - last I checked Plat sells it for around €300.

 

[pat connolly]

ive been on to **** about the 2 new injections i saw in nantes whats the spec on them etc.what kind of situation would they be used for shore or boat?

 

[Simon L]

Great post Rolfe :clap: