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4 of us ventured out last night in the rain.

Fishing is always great regardless of the result imho but we had a couple of nice
fish. 3 Tenyru Injections side by side was kinda scary though.

So Paul B, Squid and myself sat together under the harbour lights whilst
Kev ventured off the chase the smaller, but more prolific fish closer to weed and
pilings.



Paul B and the Squid.



4" one up shad (with smelly shad jelly)



Not a bad fish, pulled on the Injection, taken on the drop.



This actually fought really well and I'm sure I heard the drag go..., Squid cradles the prize.



A nice fish on light gear in my opinion.

I took yet another Pouting on the plastics last night. A much smaller one but, I'm seriously
starting to believe they are a totally viable SP target.

All 3 of us had quite a number of takes. Paul bumped a few close in to the stones and
my first fish felt like a Bass. The line went dead slack and I was gutted then, TAP !
lift and fish on...
I was surprised to see my fluorocarbon leader was ragged !, might have been a Bass, dropped it
and a Pollack picked it up. A long shot maybe but hey, just another fishing mystery.

I went to fetch Kev from just around the corner who reported 6 or 7 Pollack to 3/4lb
on really light gear. Down sized everything, loads of takes, loads of fun. He was cutting
SP's down to order and used a variety of drop shot, vertical jig and sink and draw.

All in all, better than sitting at home.
Thanks for the company guys. Can't wait till next time.
 

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A couple of pics just received from Paul B.



Me with a half smile. yes, winter Pollacking can make even the most miserable basstards happy, LOL



Tiny Pouting !, I've had them well over a pound in quite a few locations now.
Not this time though...


Yes, guys, get out there. We could even arrange a small night lure bumble around the
Harbours. Do em, 1 by one over a few weeks.

Winter wrasse, pollack, pouting etc...
Lure fishing ain't just for summer.
 

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Andy Mason said:
Well done, wished I live closer to the sea. Have you tried a small orange zonk under the same conditions?
Not orange Zonk's no.
However, myself and Kev frequently use hardbaits for Pollack.

In these deeper locations though I've found SP's more productive especially in the dog months
of Jan/Feb.

Most stuff is 'on the drop' and it is great practice. SP's requires more touch and feel imho.
Any practice and takes from whatever fish just help to reinforce the delicate and sometimes
supremely subtle feel it takes to up your SP catch rates.

Actually, come to think of it, I've not seen an orange Zonk.
I use Zonk's, Gator's and 77's. Love em.
 

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Great fishing guys :clap: . Looks like loads of fun. Sp fishing is definitely an art in itself.
 

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Good reult guys and definitely better than sitting in watching the box! Catching small pollack is a good laugh (I like float fishing alongside the harbour walls for 'em) so I bet with lighth gear this was good fun. Can't believe that pouting took a plastic almost his size! What lure was that btw Keith?
 

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Nice one guys. Good work on the pouting too! I have some 2 in chartreuse versions of those shads for exactly that! Well, them, whiting and flounder!
 

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Tim Griffin said:
Can't believe that pouting took a plastic almost his size! What lure was that btw Keith?
Nor us, they are usually bigger.
I'm getting some smaller 2 and 3" version's of the Sawamura One'up Shad.
I like them because of their texture. I'm careful to select malleable or even
quite soft SP baits especially during winter months.
I like a fish to be able to hold on and eat the plastic. It gives the angler more
time to respond imho.

I think we will find focusing on 2" shads or split tails etc will see a much greater chance
of taking Pouting etc. Why not eh. Fish is fish.
 

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I'd be up for popping down the harbour one evening to give it a go, for sure. I dont really have much in the way of suitable gear for such finesse stuff, but would like to give it a go anyway!
 

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If you're going small (2") sort of size, have you thought of or tried some standard small curly tail grubs? Perch go nuts for them so I would have thought they'd work well on the drop.
 

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Andy Mason said:
If you're going small (2") sort of size, have you thought of or tried some standard small curly tail grubs? Perch go nuts for them so I would have thought they'd work well on the drop.
Yes, all being dealt with as we move into 'scratching' style plastics work.
Scaling everything down. I'm looking forward to the results.

Mark:

PM me your mobile phone number, I'll keep you on the bumble tree.
We'll be out 2 or 3 times per week usually doing something. Pop along at
your leisure. Anyone else who fancies that, PM me the same details guys, or gals.

The more the merrier and everyone, catch or not will have fun.
And get cold and wet but I like the fun part best. LOL
 

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Keith,
that look like great fun, better than staying in watching rubbish.
For light rock fishing in Japan they sometimes use luminous (as opposed to flourescent) soft plastics or soft plstics with luminous heads. Have any of you tried those? Has anybody tried crayfish (crawfish) pattern soft plastics?

I would love to pop down. I can probably get there in about four hours via Gatwick!!!! I wish..... I would be there virtually every night if I could catch like that. The sea is the colour of milky tea still around these parts.
 

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Are you chucking them out far keith (more than 5m)? Or just working them really close in - like we've discussed elsewhere?
 

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Ben Field said:
Are you chucking them out far keith (more than 5m)? Or just working them really close in - like we've discussed elsewhere?
It varies Ben.

Sometimes a long cast, but sometimes, that long cast will only be centimeters from structure.

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Akakin & Kinkuru....OK you got me, more golden than orange
I forgive you. :muttley:
 

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Andy Mason said:
Well done, wished I live closer to the sea. Have you tried a small orange zonk under the same conditions?
Orange Zonks in the winter (especially the first half) Squid love them.
 

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Keith White said:
[quote="Andy Mason":1micdybf]Well done, wished I live closer to the sea. Have you tried a small orange zonk under the same conditions?
Not orange Zonk's no.
However, myself and Kev frequently use hardbaits for Pollack.

In these deeper locations though I've found SP's more productive especially in the dog months
of Jan/Feb.

Most stuff is 'on the drop' and it is great practice. SP's requires more touch and feel imho.
Any practice and takes from whatever fish just help to reinforce the delicate and sometimes
supremely subtle feel it takes to up your SP catch rates.

Actually, come to think of it, I've not seen an orange Zonk.
I use Zonk's, Gator's and 77's. Love em.[/quote:1micdybf]

I there is a good artifical light sauce -- the Pollack love White "suspending" plugs.
 

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Keith White said:
[quote="Tim Griffin":3ugtbgoi]Can't believe that pouting took a plastic almost his size! What lure was that btw Keith?
Nor us, they are usually bigger.
I'm getting some smaller 2 and 3" version's of the Sawamura One'up Shad.
I like them because of their texture. I'm careful to select malleable or even
quite soft SP baits especially during winter months.
I like a fish to be able to hold on and eat the plastic. It gives the angler more
time to respond imho.

I think we will find focusing on 2" shads or split tails etc will see a much greater chance
of taking Pouting etc. Why not eh. Fish is fish.[/quote:3ugtbgoi]

My Pollack last night came on a 3'' white-yellow split tail (ProLogic?), and earlier this month I was using White Quantum drop shotting split tails (Freddie Shads)

I have made some white ultra small 1.5'', 2-3g soft lures to play with in some shaltered harbour marks (will report back)
 
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