PowerPro. Diameter/Breaking Strain ?

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Nick Phillips

Discussion Starter · Jan 20, 2010

Just been spooling up the new Branzino with .23 PP so I thought I would try a little comparison test measuring the diameter (not crush down) and comparing it to the .28PP that is on another spool.
The results were:
.23PP green English diameter 0.011" or 0.28mm

.28PP yellow English diameter 0.012" or 0.31mm

As I said these diameters were measured so that the full diameter when limp was spanned and not just crushed down etc.
As toolmaker by trade I know how to measure stuff properly and I would have to say there isn't much between them at all.
I think the diameters that are stated on the boxes of all braids and fusions must be crush diameters because they are different to the real ones, and remember Vidars breaking strain scale the .23 indeed does break at 20lbs (tested) and the .28 at just over 30lbs (tested).

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Vidar Thomassen

· #2 · Jan 20, 2010

Nick Phillips said:
Just been spooling up the new Branzino with .23 PP so I thought I would try a little comparison test measuring the diameter (not crush down) and comparing it to the .28PP that is on another spool.
The results were:
.23PP green English diameter 0.011" or 0.28mm

.28PP yellow English diameter 0.012" or 0.31mm

As I said these diameters were measured so that the full diameter when limp was spanned and not just crushed down etc.
As toolmaker by trade I know how to measure stuff properly and I would have to say there isn't much between them at all.
I think the diameters that are stated on the boxes of all braids and fusions must be crush diameters because they are different to the real ones, and remember Vidars breaking strain scale the .23 indeed does break at 20lbs (tested) and the .28 at just over 30lbs (tested).

Yup, sounds about right indeed.

Almost every single braid I’ve come across has a higher diameter than stated.

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Ben Field

· #3 · Jan 20, 2010

Same with mono's. Sad but very true.

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Keith White

· #4 · Jan 20, 2010

Thanks for posting that data Nick.
Food for thought certainly.

I've just received a PE 1 and a PE 0.8 this morning. Incredibly thin !
I do have a micrometer but for all my experience measuring mono,
measuring braid is damn tough !

I use a mitutoyo micrometer so it is quite accurate.
Needs a new battery though but I'm really keen to mike these new
braids.

Any tips or shall I post you a bunch of line sections ?
In fact, a true diameter database for braid would be useful.

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Nick Phillips

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 20, 2010

Keith White said:
Thanks for posting that data Nick.
Food for thought certainly.

I've just received a PE 1 and a PE 0.8 this morning. Incredibly thin !
I do have a micrometer but for all my experience measuring mono,
measuring braid is damn tough !

I use a mitutoyo micrometer so it is quite accurate.
Needs a new battery though but I'm really keen to mike these new
braids.

Any tips or shall I post you a bunch of line sections ?
In fact, a true diameter database for braid would be useful.

All I did Keith was use a dial vernier but using the thicker part of the jaws.
I cut off a two inch sample of each and offered it up jaws and slowley moving the braid up and down until you can see friction disturbing the braid.Its also a good idea to twist the braid just in case it isn't of round section.
You need to lay the braid 'along' the thick part of the jaws long ways,this way you will see and feel the jaws are touching the propper braid diameter.
You can also do this with a micrometer,it requires good feel and sharp eyes.
Do it a few times and you should get the same result again and again.

The most accurate form of measurment you can get is "comparison".

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The Squid

· #6 · Jan 20, 2010

Keith White said:
Thanks for posting that data Nick.
Food for thought certainly.

I've just received a PE 1 and a PE 0.8 this morning. Incredibly thin !
I do have a micrometer but for all my experience measuring mono,
measuring braid is damn tough !

I use a mitutoyo micrometer so it is quite accurate.
Needs a new battery though but I'm really keen to mike these new
braids.

Any tips or shall I post you a bunch of line sections ?
In fact, a true diameter database for braid would be useful.

Keith, I have a mitutoyo micrometor, in imperial and not digital If you want to loan it (sold the metric one a long time ago)

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Ben Field

· #7 · Jan 20, 2010

Keith White said:
Thanks for posting that data Nick.
Food for thought certainly.

I've just received a PE 1 and a PE 0.8 this morning. Incredibly thin !
I do have a micrometer but for all my experience measuring mono,
measuring braid is damn tough !

I use a mitutoyo micrometer so it is quite accurate.
Needs a new battery though but I'm really keen to mike these new
braids.

Any tips or shall I post you a bunch of line sections ?
In fact, a true diameter database for braid would be useful.

Yamatoyo keith? My 0.8 gets its first outing at 7am tomorrow!

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Keith White

· #8 · Jan 20, 2010

Ben Field said:
[quote="Keith White":2yw3fo1d]Thanks for posting that data Nick.
Food for thought certainly.

I've just received a PE 1 and a PE 0.8 this morning. Incredibly thin !
I do have a micrometer but for all my experience measuring mono,
measuring braid is damn tough !

I use a mitutoyo micrometer so it is quite accurate.
Needs a new battery though but I'm really keen to mike these new
braids.

Any tips or shall I post you a bunch of line sections ?
In fact, a true diameter database for braid would be useful.

Yamatoyo keith? My 0.8 gets its first outing at 7am tomorrow![/quote:2yw3fo1d]

Yes m8, mine is looking at me now. Spooling later. Just deciding how to juggle my lines around.
Got some good ones, just going to reverse a couple.

Squid:

Phoned mitutoyo today, ordered 2 X batteries.
Might be here Friday. Thanks for the offer though m8.

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