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Hi been thinking about this a lot lately got a few ideas maybe use tiny xlayer or small spindle worms or some grubs has anybody done this before, any info on sp to use and how you would rig them, would you nail them to the bottom with the occasional twitch or let them roll around with the tide any help would be much appreciated
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I'm thinking the same Kev. Gonna give the estuary a proper go for flounder over the winter. Although I haven't tried it before I don't think you necessarily need to nail baits to the bottom. They'll come off it a bit as well from bits I've read and heard. Small Xlayers a good idea I reckon. I've got a few small Hazedongs too - in pink. Just gonna try all sorts and see what happens I think. I'm starting with colourful baits though. Will go from there..... definitely have to keep updates coming up on here over the winter as we try these things... :p
 

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I'm thinking the same Kev. Gonna give the estuary a proper go for flounder over the winter. Although I haven't tried it before I don't think you necessarily need to nail baits to the bottom. They'll come off it a bit as well from bits I've read and heard. Small Xlayers a good idea I reckon. I've got a few small Hazedongs too - in pink. Just gonna try all sorts and see what happens I think. I'm starting with colourful baits though. Will go from there..... definitely have to keep updates coming up on here over the winter as we try these things... :p
Hi i think the brighter the colour the better, you are not going to beleve this about 6 years back me and a mate were fishing for place with fresh crab bait on our local break water when a old guy turned up beside us with a old spinning rod and the lure he was using was bright yellow frog imitation i thought he was mad he sat there for a good half hour guess what he caught a place 2 and a half pounds
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I have caught a few flounders on soft plastics. I used small 2 inch curl tails from Atomic and 3gm jig heads. Fished in short twitches seemed the best method. Struggiling this year as the flounders seem to have disappeared. Hardly any being caught on bait so the experimenting is proving very slow.
On the other forum there were some guys from Cumbria I believe, who caught plenty on Mepps type lures so it might be worth combining the two types.
 

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this year we in guernsey,we have had at best a pants year for bass in general, so i thought to myself why am i targeting just bass ?
So a plan was formulated that was going to have an sp (softplastic ) summer, the main targets were, black bream,gars mackerel,pollock,and wrasse.but they had to be specimen size to count.
The flounder and plaice are as rare as unicorns round are way.

Well i can now report i've had a brill summer, granted the gars and mackerel were easy, but taking mackerel in a foot of water really surprised me, i was mulleting at the time, and right at the harbour's mouth i noticed fish really going mad in the shallows, now i tried fish strips to catch them and nothing,bread nothing, small feathers same nothing.
So out came the supermix 2.10 with a small xlayer flicked out twenty yards , well if these fish didn't hammer it every time, i stopped after ten min's as i had ample for the barbecue, but i was so happy this little method worked out.

Next was the bream, i have a few spot's where we take them very close in here in the island, so loaded with some home made jig heads, homemade weighted hooks and a few packets of verious softies i was off, to start things we're slow but still i was catching , then the bream really came on the feed and hammered evry soft plastic that was twitced in the depths, but without doubt the pearl x-layer was unstoppable on a homemade jighead (two ssg shots squeezed onto a size 1 gamakatsu) my best this year being a fish couple of scales under 3lb

Wrasse will come as no surprise to any of you as its been well written on the soft plastics ability to sniff out big wrasse, my best came on a dropping tide, as i've seen these fish in the shallow's moving down from reef to reef as the tide drops.
My best came on a 15g storm jig head loaded with a brown spindleworm . an by hell did it fight in five feet of water 6.3 lb to be exact , with many over 4lb mark coming throughout the summer

Pollock have been a pain in some areas,with the best time for bass on a couple of my marks being the hot time with pollock, so i tried for a whole week to land a decent pollock on the sp's but to be fair i really struggled getting past the small.
So i gave it the whole big lure big fish mentality, and although this didn't stop the 2/3 pounders i did manage a 5.10 on a 9inch slug-go fished dangerously close to the kelp. so it does pay to keep going till you find the fish.

So to round up , if have the area's where flonders/plaice feed in the shallows i see no reason why they shouldn't be attracted to slow twitched along the bottom.
My tools for the job were, tenryu supermix 2.10,small daiwa caldia (or calida) loaded with 15lb power pro, xlayers/slugo's and spindle worms of many shapes and sizes, and a wide range of jig heads and weighted hooks. Oh and targeting these fish really made up for the lack of bass :cool:
 

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this year we in guernsey,we have had at best a pants year for bass in general, so i thought to myself why am i targeting just bass ?
So a plan was formulated that was going to have an sp (softplastic ) summer, the main targets were, black bream,gars mackerel,pollock,and wrasse.but they had to be specimen size to count.
The flounder and plaice are as rare as unicorns round are way.

Well i can now report i've had a brill summer, granted the gars and mackerel were easy, but taking mackerel in a foot of water really surprised me, i was mulleting at the time, and right at the harbour's mouth i noticed fish really going mad in the shallows, now i tried fish strips to catch them and nothing,bread nothing, small feathers same nothing.
So out came the supermix 2.10 with a small xlayer flicked out twenty yards , well if these fish didn't hammer it every time, i stopped after ten min's as i had ample for the barbecue, but i was so happy this little method worked out.

Next was the bream, i have a few spot's where we take them very close in here in the island, so loaded with some home made jig heads, homemade weighted hooks and a few packets of verious softies i was off, to start things we're slow but still i was catching , then the bream really came on the feed and hammered evry soft plastic that was twitced in the depths, but without doubt the pearl x-layer was unstoppable on a homemade jighead (two ssg shots squeezed onto a size 1 gamakatsu) my best this year being a fish couple of scales under 3lb

Wrasse will come as no surprise to any of you as its been well written on the soft plastics ability to sniff out big wrasse, my best came on a dropping tide, as i've seen these fish in the shallow's moving down from reef to reef as the tide drops.
My best came on a 15g storm jig head loaded with a brown spindleworm . an by hell did it fight in five feet of water 6.3 lb to be exact , with many over 4lb mark coming throughout the summer

Pollock have been a pain in some areas,with the best time for bass on a couple of my marks being the hot time with pollock, so i tried for a whole week to land a decent pollock on the sp's but to be fair i really struggled getting past the small.
So i gave it the whole big lure big fish mentality, and although this didn't stop the 2/3 pounders i did manage a 5.10 on a 9inch slug-go fished dangerously close to the kelp. so it does pay to keep going till you find the fish.

So to round up , if have the area's where flonders/plaice feed in the shallows i see no reason why they shouldn't be attracted to slow twitched along the bottom.
My tools for the job were, tenryu supermix 2.10,small daiwa caldia (or calida) loaded with 15lb power pro, xlayers/slugo's and spindle worms of many shapes and sizes, and a wide range of jig heads and weighted hooks. Oh and targeting these fish really made up for the lack of bass :cool:
Hi sausage i have got to say that is a great post and thanks very much i have some small xlayers in the perl colour, and small spindle worms in the glow shrasu
i am gonna give them a go when the weather settles down
once again thanks
kevin :)
 
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