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Ok , so i've got a 9 ft spinning rod , casting weight 10 - 40 grams , a reel , and a few lures (3)lol , and i'm still scratching around for a few more.
Now I need to fill the reel with line , question is what do I use. Braid , mono , what strength. Do I tie on a leader or not. If so what strength.

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I would have a look at 14lb Berkley Fireline, just about the easiest braid to use, knots well and will give you much more feed back from the lures than mono. About £25 for 300 yards I managed a season with it, fishing ALOT so reasonably durable.
 

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Another question how reasonable is it to put mono backing on a reel??? Also check out power pro brain 20 lb its really good :)
 

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IMHO most lure fishing, be it pike or bass, is better with braid. I have always liked the Power Pro. Very popular and far from radical I know but I have used it in various strengths for everything from feeder fishing, pike fishing, wreck fishing and of course lure fishing for bass. Its reliable and knots well. Just toying with the idea of one of the new 8 strand braids....!
 

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Fireline and Powerpro are both very user-friendly braids and you won't go wrong starting on these. I now use Powershot in 25lb at 0.15mm, and I love it, and am about to get some 15lb in the same stuff I think.
 

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Colin

power pro is great - round in profile
fireline is not bad - flat in profile

power pro is abit easier to use for newbies for that reason

10lb power pro (which actually breaks at about 25lb) is more than strong enough for what you'll be using it for

Kevin
mono backing is fine (in fact recommended to help prevent line dig and braid spool in-rotation)
and is more cost effective
you realistically shouldn't need more than a 100m topshot of braid anyway
lets face it when was the last time you had more than 100m of line out - even fishing from a boat???

Nick
 
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Thanks nick thats true i suppose so does it matter what BS of mono is used as backing i have daiwa sensor in 8/15/25 so whcih would be better i know if i use 15 or 25 il need less of it but just wondering if it makes any difference ?
 

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10lb power pro (which actually breaks at about 25lb) is more than strong enough for what you'll be using it for
I agree.
However, to start, 15lb will give you a huge margin of safety if your primary concern is catching fish and not getting lures out of snags.
 

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I agree.
However, to start, 15lb will give you a huge margin of safety if your primary concern is catching fish and not getting lures out of snags.
10lb PP should straighten just about any hook if pulled straight
besides there are other (and better) ways of getting lures de-snagged other than reefing it out on heavy line
 

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Thanks nick thats true i suppose so does it matter what BS of mono is used as backing i have daiwa sensor in 8/15/25 so whcih would be better i know if i use 15 or 25 il need less of it but just wondering if it makes any difference ?
Pick a mono thats as close in diameter as possible
thats my advice anyway :geek:

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Ok , please correct me if i'm wrong in thinking that I should put about 50 - 75 yards of mono on first(similar diameter to braid) , then fill spool with braid (10lb - 15lb).
So no shock leader then?
What knot should I use to tie the braid to the mono?

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Ok , please correct me if i'm wrong in thinking that I should put about 50 - 75 yards of mono on first(similar diameter to braid) , then fill spool with braid (10lb - 15lb).
So no shock leader then?
What knot should I use to tie the braid to the mono?

cheers guy's
no thats correct
the leader goes between the braid and your lure
a "shock" leader is usually a leader of extra strength for specific reasons i.e. toothy of very strong fish on light line
any knot of decent strength (slim beauty, double blood/clinch even a surgeons if you must) will do at either end (mono backing to braid and braid to leader)

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Is a leader needed when lure fishing?
When baitfishing a leader is used because you are casting a heavy sinker , hence the strength of the leader is determined by the size(weight) of the sinker that you are casting , and also because mono is more durable when dragged over rocks ect.

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Is a leader needed when lure fishing?
When baitfishing a leader is used because you are casting a heavy sinker , hence the strength of the leader is determined by the size(weight) of the sinker that you are casting , and also because mono is more durable when dragged over rocks ect.

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Sure is

If you tied braid straight to your lure you'd have connection that is very visible
Most lure fishermen will use a length of either mono or flourocarbon or a specialist hybrid line
The leader also inserts a crucial element of controlled stretch into your system

for instance
when I'm using 5lb powerpro mainline I run 2-3 feet of 6lb mason hard type mono
which is thin but very tough
when I'm using 10lb powerpro I use 2-3 feet of 10lb mason
if I ever use a double (rare) I increase the leader length out to 5-6 feet

I've used 6lb mason when pike pfishing and haven't had biteoffs even when swallowed by a 15lb pike
its good stuff though hard to find

anyway enough about me ...

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Anselmo,
Mason Hard type against Pike-Not such a good idea-Bite off will happen-Seen 100lb fluro bitten through by pike. Wire is no handicap for pike fishing and much safer for the pike.

I use 3'-4' of 15-25lb Flurocarbon as a leader depending on how rough any structure is on the mark. Fluro is just so much more durable on the rocks than braid. I guess it is less visable as well, but you can catch bass fishing braid straight through.
 

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Anselmo,
Mason Hard type against Pike-Not such a good idea-Bite off will happen-Seen 100lb fluro bitten through by pike. Wire is no handicap for pike fishing and much safer for the pike.

I use 3'-4' of 15-25lb Flurocarbon as a leader depending on how rough any structure is on the mark. Fluro is just so much more durable on the rocks than braid. I guess it is less visable as well, but you can catch bass fishing braid straight through.
As I said I've never had a bite off on pike on 6lb mason
Including a throat deep swallow by a 15lb fish, and numerous swallows by smaller fish
The only bite offs I've had pike fishing were when iwas fishing for trout and pike decided the spinner on 6lb flouro trace was food

I check the trace after every fish
the swallowed fish scuffed the mason up a bit but never bit through or damaged it to the point that I though "whew that was lucky"

Not sure why wire is safer for the fish?

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Check out this thread,
http://www.thelureforum.com/showthread.php?t=1971
I see no reason to risk leaving lures in Pike, when there is no reason to take the risk. 15lb knottable single strand titanium wire is hair thin and tough as hell. I don't rely on luck when it comes to fish welfare.

As you know, you can catch big Spanish Mackerel without a wire leader, but if you try it, you will end up leaving ALOT of hooks/lures in them.
 
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